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 Saturday, August 18, 2007
Hallows and Snape SPOILER
Posted by maggie

Please don't read this discussion of the Harry Potter series, unless you've finished the final book.

I postulate that Severus Snape, "probably the bravest man [Harry] ever knew," is one of the great characters of fiction: a development over seven volumes that inspires rereading. And the problem with that is that the discussion can only begin, if the people with whom it is discussed have read all umpty-bump pages. So Spoiler Warning.

I think that, beyond the plotting details, Rowling was concerned with establishing certain "lessons" in the course of the seven books. These include:

Death is a concern but not to be feared.

It's not whether you win or lose but how you play the game.

Every individual should be regarded as valuable.

Every individual, no matter how wise or good, can make mistakes.

When you make a mistake, you need to acknowledge it, feel remorse, and do what you can to correct it. If that is done, you need to be forgiven for the mistake.

You will always have to cope with the fact that others' opinions of you may be wrong. And that your opinion of others may also be wrong.

No matter whether you recognize the preceding six concepts, you will have to cope with living among people who do not recognize them.

That's off the top of my head.

I wept too much to continue reading at several points through the novel. Especially affecting (much to my surprise) was the death of Dobby – which hit me much harder than the death of Sirius Black. And I thought the death of Snape and the following chapter was incredible. I've already reread it multiple times.

And that took me to: Just how the hell much did Rowling plan in advance? I know she spoke at one point of having to rip up some material a few books back because the plotting didn't work. But did she really plan the snitch-in-the-mouth gambit as far back as Book One? Wow.

What happens next to the assorted Baddies, we don't know. Azkaban no longer has guards. The impact on the entire Wizarding World remains to be seen. Which is one of the forces that will keep this series a topic of conversation for years and years to come; Rowling is (big surprise) a smart lady.

Finally, I'm finding it interesting that readers are divided, when I ask the following question: In the ongoing story (as opposed to the flashback), what are Snape's last words? A few nod eagerly and say, "Yes!" Most pause and make an effort to recall. Which means the impact of the scene didn't strike them in retrospect, and they didn't go back to reread it.

First, of course, Snape tells Harry, "Take ... it. ... Take ... it. ..."

And that's what those who try to remember do remember. But that's not what Snape's last words are. After giving his memories to Harry (which has some impact, too, considering that removing the memories removes them from Snape's own mind, as he dies), the scene of Snape's last moments reads:

"Look ... at ... me. ..." he whispered.

The green eyes found the black, but after a second, something in the depths of the dark pair seemed to vanish, leaving them fixed, blank, and empty. The hand holding Harry thudded to the floor, and Snape moved no more.

And that's Snape's final reward.

The last thing Snape sees is: Lily's eyes.



8/18/2007 8:42:59 AM (Central Daylight Time, UTC-05:00)  #  Comments [2]
8/22/2007 3:01:27 PM (Central Daylight Time, UTC-05:00)
Maggie we discussed this some already. I read and recalled Snapes last words and when you mentioned it, it made sense. This is more a self introspection for me, but I miss things like this all the time. Again I love catching these things and hate writing to the lowest common denominator, but I don't know, think that may have been too subtle?? That is that line between of complicated yet fulfilling depth of information and ideas over my head. I am a little embarrassed missing stuff but I just do. I read slow. I miss stuff.

In Junior High/Highschool I would have said there is no way the author was conscious of that. This is a weakness not of public education (they presented the material well I just refused to believe it) rather me not thinking people could be that smart. I thought stories were just linear adventures. Showing some scenes and ending. Amazing to begin learning about symbols, reading between the lines, research, continuity... I guess my point is I think I am a relatively bright guy (maybe not, Ok probably not, please just bear with me) but missed this completely and suspect there are others that did too. So as a writer do you make it more obvious and take away the beauty — or hope people will get it when they talk to a friend — or upon a second reading — or it will hit them months later in the shower? Or let it just hang there knowing more than the reader? Heah I don't know, I love the books, learning this makes me wonder what else I missed.

I suspect Harry didn't know what Snape meant either at least at that moment. I do think that since the first book people were always saying Harry has Lilies eyes. That is good writing Mrs. Rawlings. Everyone loves the drama of 'last words.' I know this is a fictional book (I think?) and all, but I wonder if someone about to snuff-it really has the clarity to offer deep wisdom or even a self indulgent plea? If I were to die today and somehow knew I had about 30 seconds; I think I still would keep my thoughts, dreams, secrets to myself? Oh maybe not. I might toss out, "And knowing is half the battle!" or make the Transformers "ki koo ki ka!" sound one last time. That was me trying to put a lighter spin on my all-to-serious tangent, I don't love the late 80's early 90s cartoons that much. ???
8/23/2007 8:33:38 AM (Central Daylight Time, UTC-05:00)
No, Harry didn't know what Snape meant at the time. It was obviously clear to him later -- as he (as well as the reader) had to reevaluate every contact he'd ever had with Snape.

As to how obvious writers are -- or should be -- it varies from writer to writer. The number of books and articles analyzing Lewis Carroll's Alice books are too many to count. And those were "merely" children's stories. In fact, to an extent, Rowling herself addresses the meaning that can be found in children's fiction when she tells the story of the Hallows.

Heck, to me it's one of the delights of the study of literature. You can get a story that is compelling on its own -- and you have a bonus when thinking about that story brings you even more than you'd initially noticed.
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